Skyrim se male body mods

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I do miss SAM but its got no meat and potatoes >.> I was using a SAM light setup for the last year, but recently switched to SOS light so I could test the new sexlab full release beta and porting a bunch of SL mods heheh, all seems to be working great, I was even able to generate fus ra d-oh and it all works, all the MCM menus work too. What is it in racemenu thats needed? If its just the net immerse override cant that be a separate thing like before in oldrim? I am using ECE which does have the face mesh editor and all the sliders ya'd ever want so Im not going to bother with racemenu for now. I looked at that alpha but havnt tested since I use ECE and they're incompatible apparently.